In this videocall episode, Frank Arnesen and Søren Lerby take a spectacular Champions League match as their starting point and delve into what separates the top level from Danish football.

Why can the best teams play with such high quality and courage – and what is missing in Denmark?

The discussion moves from Bayern and PSG to the Danish national team, talent development and the responsibility of both coaches and DBU.

They also discuss the end of the Superliga, the championship match and FC Copenhagen’s situation – and answer questions from listeners about Euro ’84 and World Cup dreams.